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Pastor, I can’t make every ask. Here’s how every ask still gets made.

1,000+ sermonsFormer ARC & CMN planterPastor Center co-founder

Try to personally ask everyone in your church to take their next step and two things happen: you burn out, and you still miss people. I’ve tried. The math doesn’t work — typical span of care in churches runs one leader for every 13–17 people, when best practice is closer to one to five. An engaged church isn’t one pastor asking a lot. It’s many people asking a little. Here’s how I moved from making every ask to making sure every ask gets made.

Step 1 — Assign every person to a leader

Not “the staff loosely watches the congregation.” Every single active person, assigned by name to a pastor, staff member, or key leader. This is Ephesians 4:11–12 in practice — equipping the saints for the work of ministry, and the work of ministry is making asks. When everyone is somebody’s responsibility, nobody is nobody’s.

Step 2 — Give every leader a short list

A leader with a database is overwhelmed; a leader with five names is dangerous. Each leader gets their people, each person’s level, and the suggested next ask: Steve needs a group invite, the Nguyens haven’t been contacted in 90 days, Jordan’s ready to be asked about serving. Ten minutes a week per leader, working a real list — that’s the whole machine.

Step 3 — Let group leaders make the warmest asks

The best group invitation doesn’t come from the stage — it comes from the group’s own leader: “Hey, you match our group — same stage of life, same side of town. We’d love to have you Tuesday.” Hand every group leader a matched list before launch season and let them invite personally. And if someone gets invited by two different leaders? They don’t feel spammed — they feel wanted, and they pick the night that fits their calendar. This is what Group Match inside Engage generates automatically: matched lists by stage, campus, and proximity, with the invitation drafted.

Barnabas on iPhone — matching a member to best-fit groups and drafting the invitation for the leader to send
Group Match — best-fit groups found, invitation drafted, leader makes the ask.

Step 4 — Log the asks, and make it culture

What gets logged gets done. When leaders log each ask, each call, each coffee, two things happen: the whole team can see who’s being cared for, and “who did you ask this week?” becomes a normal staff-meeting question instead of an awkward one. The data backs the culture: churches with high volunteer engagement have roughly three times more leaders and three times more people in groups — and they grow faster. More askers, more engagement. It compounds.

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The Church Engagement Course covers assignment, leader lists, and group match in Lesson 7 — ten lessons, about 50 minutes, free.

You becoming the multiplier beats you being the machine. Assign your people this week, hand out five-name lists, and watch what happens when every ask gets made — without you making them all.

The church that makes asks is the church that grows.

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01What Engagement Really Is3 min
02The Engagement Gap3 min
03Invitation, Not Broadcast7 min
04Next Steps (The Asks)12 min

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Jon-Michael Sherman
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